[求助]壮语里颜色词的构词法
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Simsun; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="TEXT-ALIGN: left; LINE-HEIGHT: 24px; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; FONT-SIZE: 14px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;">请问各位贝侬，在壮语里颜色词的构词法，比如说汉语是 ：红、黄、蓝、绿+色，构成了红色、黄色、蓝色、绿色。<br/>在壮语里有吗？还是直接就是用红、黄、蓝、绿来表示黄色、蓝色、绿色</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Simsun; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; LETTER-SPACING: normal; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; 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mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">与</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">hoengz</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">同</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">]</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">[</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">方</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">]ndeng</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; 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mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> 深红色</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><font face="Calibri">ndinggeq</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">[</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">方</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">]</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> 猩红</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">nonh</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;">见</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Calibri">hoengzdauz)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> 桃红色</span></p><p>在壮语里有单独的“色”这个词吗？还是壮语的颜色词构词法跟汉语截然不同？</p></span></span> <p>以前，有个女大学生跑到壮拳世界向白衣狂石咨询一些关于壮拳的情况，，，，，</p><p>后来不久就写了一篇关于壮拳的学术论文，，，，，还不注名资料出处，，，，</p><p>现在的人啊？！</p><p></p><p>专家就是这样练成的。</p>[此贴子已经被作者于2011-7-22 10:04:24编辑过] <p>我家乡话的颜色词：</p><p>goengz 红-----------ndingl</p><p>aeuj 紫----------?</p><p>ndaem 黑-------hroonx</p><p>heu 绿、蓝------------yeeul植物的绿色，其他的绿色=log</p><p>liang 黄----------yeenc</p><p>piag 白-------hraaul</p><p>luamz 蓝---?</p><p>mong 灰-------moongl</p>
[此贴子已经被作者于2011-7-18 12:39:37编辑过] <p>右江河谷的颜色词：</p><p>黑色：fonx</p><p>白色：hau</p><p>红色：nding</p><p>黄色：henj</p><p>青色：heu</p><p>蓝色：ceb</p><p>紫色：cij</p><p>灰色：mok</p><p>粉红：maeq</p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>伤疤好咯</i>在2011-7-17 23:17:16的发言：</b><br/>黑色讲成saek ndaem也对，单用ndaem也对。“黑心”说成“sim ndaem"，但说成sim saekndaem就不对了，汉语也一样，没见过黑心人说成黑色心人的。</div><p></p><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>沙南曼森</i>在2011-7-17 23:31:29的发言：</b><br/><p>我家乡话的颜色词：</p><p>goengz 红</p><p>aeuj 紫</p><p>ndaem 黑</p><p>heu 绿、蓝</p><p>liang 黄</p><p>piag 白</p><p>luamz 蓝</p><p>mong 灰</p><p>slaek 颜色（类名）</p><p>颜色词加上修饰成分，还可以表示不同程度的颜色。比如：<br/><br/>goengz dingj 大红<br/>goengz domh 粉红<br/>goengz paengq 成片的大红<br/>goengz yauz 很红<br/>goengz yeuz 有点红<br/></p></div><p>非常感谢！文章还是在艰难的进行之中，的确，不会壮语来写壮语的文章难度好大！但还是得写，承蒙各位贝侬相助啦！</p>
回复：（bnyzwz）以下是引用伤疤好咯在2011-7-17 23:1...
<p>我不得不批评你！你不会壮语写什么关于壮语的论文嘛？这不成了胡说八道吗？这样的后果有：</p><p>一、误导族人、各族群众；</p><p>二、你写的“论文”往往被不怀好意的家伙作为攻击壮语、壮族的“有力证据”。</p><p></p><p>我求你不要乱写了！</p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>bnyzwz</i>在2011-7-17 18:42:00的发言：</b><br/>多谢贝侬啦，我现在在研究壮语颜色词的构词法，正在找他的规律看看跟泰语、汉语有什么不同。但我又是壮语盲，几乎是从零开始研究，只能借助国际音标来划分词义。</div><p>壮语盲研究壮语，太艰难了点吧？</p><p>建议先学一点壮语口语，培养语感再进一步研究。</p><p>某一天你研究壮语的大作都出来了，你还是壮语盲，那不是什么值得炫耀的事。</p> <p>我家乡话的颜色词：</p><p>goengz 红</p><p>aeuj 紫</p><p>ndaem 黑</p><p>heu 绿、蓝</p><p>liang 黄</p><p>piag 白</p><p>luamz 蓝</p><p>mong 灰</p><p>slaek 颜色（类名）</p><p>颜色词加上修饰成分，还可以表示不同程度的颜色。比如：<br/><br/>goengz dingj 大红<br/>goengz domh 粉红<br/>goengz paengq 成片的大红<br/>goengz yauz 很红<br/>goengz yeuz 有点红<br/></p> 壮语有颜色的种类词即saek，但是不能简单的理解为壮语跟汉语一样，表示某种颜色的一定带有“色”，例如henj一词表示的是黄色，如同英语的yellow一词表示黄色一样，没有henj saek这种用法，就像英文没有yellow color这种用法一样。也有没有种类词的，例如壮语没有汉语“牛”这个种类词，vaiz表示水牛，cwz表示黄牛。 黑色讲成saek ndaem也对，单用ndaem也对。“黑心”说成“sim ndaem"，但说成sim saekndaem就不对了，汉语也一样，没见过黑心人说成黑色心人的。 <font size="4">研究语言而没学会该语言，很难进行滴~~~~~。</font> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>伤疤好咯</i>在2011-7-17 18:30:17的发言：</b><br/><p>有，“色”就是“saek",有些方言里是“sik".</p><p>泰国、老挝是si</p></div><p>可是我查到的颜色词里面几乎没有带“saek"或“sik"啊</p> 多谢贝侬啦，我现在在研究壮语颜色词的构词法，正在找他的规律看看跟泰语、汉语有什么不同。但我又是壮语盲，几乎是从零开始研究，只能借助国际音标来划分词义。 <p>有，“色”就是“saek",有些方言里是“sik".</p><p>泰国、老挝是si</p>
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