庾楼月色 发表于 2011-5-15 16:43:00

<p>都安人竹笋称为rangz,把小孩子称nyez或者lwgz nyez,两者加起来确实有“竹笋娃”之意。</p><p>再联系到侬智高,那一带人普遍认为他的兵马来自竹子,或者可以说,北壮对竹子-兵马意识有着悠远的历史,可能产生过竹子崇拜</p>
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土人香草 发表于 2011-5-15 23:57:00

<p>此传说流行于滇黔桂交汇处的壮族\布依族聚居地!</p><p>————————————————</p><p>这个传说整个壮族地区都有呢,越南北部都流传,可不只在黔桂交汇处。</p>

土著虎尾 发表于 2011-6-4 15:34:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>mygray</i>在2011-6-4 1:53:23的发言:</b><br/><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">我不赞成说什么地方都是越人故地或是僚语什么的,没有依据会让外族人很反感。</span>
                <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; FONT-SIZE: 23px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312;"><br/></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; FONT-SIZE: 23px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312;">资料都说夜郎基本在遵义那一带吧。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; FONT-SIZE: 23px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312;">所以才有汉使者到古滇国时问‘滇国与大汉谁大’,答“滇国大”。回去的路上到夜郎国又问“夜郎与大汉谁大”,答“夜郎大”——结果就被记载成“夜郎自大”,搞成贬义词,本身的对话是没有什么贬义的。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; FONT-SIZE: 23px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312;"><br/></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="仿宋_GB2312"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: 800; FONT-SIZE: 22px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px;"><br/></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">这位朋友写这个拼音壮文:ngez rangz</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px;"><br/></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">ngez也可以这么理解:小、狭窄</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">rangz也可以这么理解:峡谷,山谷</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px;"><br/></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px;">那</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">ngez rangz(</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';"> rangz </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">ngez</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';">)也可以这么理解狭长山谷众多的地方....等等。那太符合贵州这山高谷深的地方了!!!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';"><br/></span></div><img title="僚人家园" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://www.rauz.net.cn/bbs/Skins/Default/emot/em01.gif" align="middle" border="0" style="CURSOR: pointer;"/></div><p>是研究人员说的,可参考。别怕<font face="Tahoma" size="2">外族人反感。</font></p>

mygray 发表于 2011-6-4 01:53:00

<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; line-height: 22px; font-size: 12px; ">我不赞成说什么地方都是越人故地或是僚语什么的,没有依据会让外族人很反感。</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; font-size: 23px; font-weight: 800; line-height: 22px; "><br/></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; font-size: 23px; font-weight: 800; line-height: 22px; ">资料都说夜郎基本在遵义那一带吧。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; font-size: 23px; font-weight: 800; line-height: 22px; ">所以才有汉使者到古滇国时问‘滇国与大汉谁大’,答“滇国大”。回去的路上到夜郎国又问“夜郎与大汉谁大”,答“夜郎大”——结果就被记载成“夜郎自大”,搞成贬义词,本身的对话是没有什么贬义的。</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 仿宋_GB2312; font-size: 23px; font-weight: 800; line-height: 22px; "><br/></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="仿宋_GB2312"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 22px; font-weight: 800; line-height: 22px; "><br/></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; line-height: 22px; font-size: 12px; ">这位朋友写这个拼音壮文:ngez rangz</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; "><br/></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; line-height: 22px; font-size: 12px; ">ngez也可以这么理解:小、狭窄</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; line-height: 22px; font-size: 12px; ">rangz也可以这么理解:峡谷,山谷</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; "><br/></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; ">那</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; ">ngez rangz(</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; "> rangz </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; ">ngez</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; ">)也可以这么理解狭长山谷众多的地方....等等。那太符合贵州这山高谷深的地方了!!!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy'; font-size: 12px; line-height: 22px; "><br/></span></div>

mygray 发表于 2011-6-4 01:59:00

还有个故事<div><br/></div>传说古人在竹尖上生活<div><br/></div>由于天上有九个太阳,太热了才下到地上生活<div><br/></div>故事的细节忘记了<div><br/></div>汗

大俚国民 发表于 2012-1-30 17:07:00

郎俚语是房屋。。。。。。。。。。。。
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