伤疤好咯 发表于 2009-9-26 11:22:00

回复:(Honghlaj)关于壮语文教材问题,也许我还没有表...

高见!支持!

东瓯一僚 发表于 2009-9-26 21:30:00

<p>学习有目的性。目前绝大部分百姓的孩子,上学不是为文化,而是为将来谋生。因而目前幼儿开始的学习都是为了全国统一高考——那是以汉学为基础的,因此谁都不会轻易放弃它。除非广西能自命高考题,且考有壮文化。</p><p>寄希望于广西经济迅速发达(现在看有希望),以便政府有足够的精力来构思本土文化的生存和发展。政府介入。大伙儿知道政府导向的力量。</p><p>经济发展了,本土语言也会随之时兴,本土文化也得以更有力支持,rauz网站的理事们更得心应手了。</p><p>那时,我们可留住本土人才,不至于他们几乎一个个都要远走他乡。</p>

土人香草 发表于 2009-10-12 12:01:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>mahongpin</i>在2009-10-3 21:45:33的发言:</b><br/><p>一个小建议:</p><p>正式场合和正式的文件、文章不要再使用网名,请使用真实的姓名,以便真客观和真实。</p></div><p>因为发在网上我们才改成网名的</p><p>会议发言时肯定是真名了,嘿嘿</p>

一知半解 发表于 2009-10-3 16:18:00

<p>说得好!我们的心声!</p>

mahongpin 发表于 2009-10-3 21:45:00

<p>一个小建议:</p><p>    正式场合和正式的文件、文章不要再使用网名,请使用真实的姓名,以便真客观和真实。</p>

亚南 发表于 2009-10-6 02:30:00

<p>   意见稿上交了,要有专人跟踪,并及时对接下一步的工作,如编制《工作方案》等等有关的文件。否则,效果不大。</p><p>   简单的写写几千字交上去,坐等天上会有馅饼掉下来,不太现实。</p><p>   以上,经验之谈。希望楼主们不断努力。谢谢楼主。</p>

爱听歌 发表于 2009-10-6 21:58:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>使君子</i>在2009-9-25 14:52:23的发言:</b><br/><div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 12px; LINE-HEIGHT: 22px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma, '宋体 fantasy';"><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><b style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">(三)壮文改革方面</font><span lang="EN-US" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></span></span></b></p><b style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p></b><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">1</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">、在辅音中增加送气音,弥补壮族子弟学习汉语发音上的不足;</font><span lang="EN-US" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></span></span></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">2</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">、壮文用字母标调有先天性的缺陷,应该探讨未来是否可以实现调号上标的方式;</font><span lang="EN-US" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></span></span></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">3</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">、南部壮语方言相对来说保留更多民族词汇,应该把这些词汇搜集整理收录进壮文字典,丰富未来的壮文词库,</font><span lang="EN-US" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></span></span></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; WORD-BREAK: break-all; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">4</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; WORD-BREAK: break-all; FONT-FAMILY: 仿宋_gb2312; WORD-WRAP: break-word;"><font color="#000000" style="WORD-BREAK: break-all; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; WORD-WRAP: break-word;">、在标准壮语中尽量使用民族词,避免过多借用汉语。</font></span></p></span></b><br/></div><p></p><div><br/></div>1.p、t、k 这三个辅音很重要,欧美语言皆有。比如英文单词park和bark意思就不同。广州话taenq(退)与daenq(抖)意思不同。 <div><br/></div><div>2.现有标调系统,特别是如果多词连写(中间不加空格)的话,很容易将调号混淆成接着的下一个词的首个字母。我现在的解决办法是,将每个词的词首字母都大写,并且尽量多用空格。越南文的调号书写颇为美观,值得参考。泰国的 巴利文/天城体 梵文虽然优美,但相对于通行现今世界的拉丁字母而言,较难推广。</div><div><br/></div><div>3.侗傣语词库应该力求做到收录整个侗傣语集团的所有方言土语。</div><div><br/></div><div>4.推荐以南宁为中心四周的旧邕宁县“中部方言”作为标准语。南宁是今后的广西与ASEAN的贸易中心,又是广西首邑,音韵当然以这里为贵。武鸣县距离市区太远,武鸣方言西南官话成分太多,不推荐。今后广西的发展趋势,就是要逐渐淡化、冷落桂林柳州这些西南官话城市。</div><div><br/></div></div><p>顶!</p><p>个人觉得不论是都安话还是南宁郊区的壮话都比武鸣话有优势,都安话在听觉上算是蛮有特色的,音调大起大落、抑扬顿挫,但是过于铿锵厚重,可能只有柳州河池一带较容易接受,跟红水河以南、桂西等地语音风格的差异太明显了。南宁郊区的口音就比较中和一些,刚柔适中,又不杂桂柳音,听起来婉转自然,如果将来再对其进行系统地规范整合,就更理想了。况且市区早已拓展到二塘、三塘等讲壮话的村镇,所以没理由不以首府壮音为标准音。</p>

Gymbaus 发表于 2009-10-9 13:42:00

<p>关注。希望有更多的报道。各位版主不要只顾学术,多来点新闻哪</p><p>另,我一直觉得,咱们的版主太不活跃了,有的甚至半年都不来一次。可能刚开始的版主偏重“学术”,都忙,不鸣则已,一鸣惊人那种。不过论坛嘛,还是以活跃为主,各位有学术研究的,以贵宾身份什么的,比较好。当然,这里也不似娱乐网站那么吸引人。。。</p>

huangtong 发表于 2009-11-19 23:20:00

<font color="#f73809"><strong>广西民族学院(大学)在东盟小语种教学方面做得不错,但在壮文教育方面好象没多大建树!搞东盟语言教育在经济效益方面是不错,但别忘记自己的使命!</strong></font>

jywei38 发表于 2010-4-3 19:01:00

民族的希望全靠贝侬们的努力了啊!祝贺大家努力成功!
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