各地域「𨬝」(挕)字讀音
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">請高人幫忙註明「</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tjap</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」調頪。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">以</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">、</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">8 </font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">分別代表陰平、陽平、陰上、陽上、陰去、陽去、陰入、陽入調。</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font size="3"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">以下是各地域「</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𨬝</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">挕</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">字讀音:──表示「打」,在侗台語裏有:水語利岩</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tjap52</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,榕江</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tjap31</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,莫</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tap31</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,佯黃</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tjap31</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,閩南話「</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𨬝</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」讀作</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tiap8(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">徒協切</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,閩南話</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tiap8</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">可解釋作「擊打;修理、整治」,給</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tiap8</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">造句:</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">(1)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">伊作禃層否事縡──夷鱸鰻儂,結果伊就焉爾乞互鱸鰻儂~臵足悽慘。</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">(2)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">伊</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">n</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">老父驁受气,足驁~囝兒。</span></font></p> 壮语的同源词应该是 dub(打、捶打、敲击),阳入调。 <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">粵語</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"> “</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">捶打”讀</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tup33(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">李新魁《廣東的方言》</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">1994</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">:</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">230</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">頁</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,壯語</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">相當何韻?「搭」?</span></p> <p>南宁市邕宁区壮语:</p><p>daeb 捶打 (调值应为33或31)</p><p>toeb 脚踹</p> <div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>iunn5</i>在2008-1-23 15:26:00的发言:</b><br/><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">粵語</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"> “</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">捶打”讀</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">tup33(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">李新魁《廣東的方言》</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">1994</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">:</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">230</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">頁</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">,壯語</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">相當何韻?「搭」?</span></p></div><p>我对汉语音韵学还不熟悉,无法准确回答你这个问题,“搭”韵似乎是对的。但我想壮语的音韵直接继承自古台语,用汉语音韵学的东西来对照恐怕不完全对应得上,你是否应该先查查粤语的up韵相当于何韵?如果让我自己来对应的话,我会对应成“咸合一入帖端”,呵呵。</p><p>这个壮语词的主元音u在古台语韵律中属于Proto-Tai *u,声韵属于D2S调类<font size="2">(红棉树注:相当于汉语的阳入短韵),</font>在台语比较的权威书《A Handbook of Comparative Tai(比较台语手册)》上就收录这个词的泰语和壮语剥隘土语说法,分别为thup D2S和tup D2S(李方桂1977:266页)。</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">閩南雅言“枹”讀作</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,「擊打」在哪些地方話讀作</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">(bāo</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">ㄅㄠ</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">閩南雅言“枹”讀作</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,有些地方話讀作</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">pau1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,吻合班交切、芳無切,閩南話</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">pa1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">意思是「摑」,例如:枹喙髀、枹落去。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">「班交切」跟閩南雅言「茭</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">kha1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,骹</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">kha1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,筊</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">ha2(</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">胡茅切</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」同樣是肴韻。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">閩南話</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">「</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𢷕</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」</span><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">讀作</span><span lang="FR" style="COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">bok7</font></span><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,</span><span lang="FR" style="COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">bok7</font></span><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">意思是「</span><span lang="FR" style="COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">用拳頭</span><span lang="FR" style="COLOR: black;"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">擊、揍」,例如:朕</span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">〜伊</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">拳。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">「</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𢷕</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」字的繁體部首:手,部外筆畫</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">14</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,總筆畫</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">18</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">。「</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𢷕</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">」字之《康熙字典》字義注釋──【唐韻】莫角切【集韻】墨角切,</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𠀤</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">音藐。擊也,打也。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">山西話「描」讀作平聲</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">mao</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,表示抛棄,平聲</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">mao</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">來自莫交切</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">(máo</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">ㄇㄠˊ</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,【集韻】:「眉敎切,音貌。擲也。」</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">「描」字之《康熙字典》字義注釋──【唐韻】武鑣切【集韻】【韻會】【正韻】眉鑣切,</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𠀤</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">音苗。摹畫也。【六書故】描摹聲相近,描輕而摹重。又【唐韻】莫交切【集韻】謨交切,</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𠀤</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">音茅。打也。 又【集韻】眉敎切,音貌。擲也。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman"> <p></p></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.5pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">閩南話</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">mau1</font></span><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">意思是擊,</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">mau1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">可能來自“枹”班交切,</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">mau1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">亦可能來自「描」莫交切</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">(máo</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">ㄇㄠˊ</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">)</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">,【集韻】謨交切,</span><span lang="FR"><font face="Times New Roman">𠀤</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";">音茅,打也。</span></p>[此贴子已经被作者于2008-1-24 12:06:38编辑过]
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